Brian Johnson ([info]175560) wrote,
@ 2004-08-01 16:12:00
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Mediocre sci-fi; read Treason instead
Book review: Pastwatch by Orson Scott Card

Summary: a futuristic society, armed with technology that enables them to see into the past, feels collective guilt about humanity's prior transgressions against each other and nature. They seek to dramatically alter history by modifying the past around the time of Columbus's voyage.


This book is clearly well-researched, as evidenced by the bibliography. Card has done his homework on Columbus and on pre-Columbian native American societies. However, this novel lacks somewhat in character development, plot, and especially in believability. Card's primary error, I think, is that he asks the reader to believe in a world where individual actions have significant and accurately predictable effects on historical events; I lost interest in the story exactly when the characters started making speculative predictions about what would have happened if, and pretending that those predictions were entirely accurate. The story also (somewhat ironically) seems to bog down when the characters start actually making plans to alter the past. One saving grace is the chapter on how one of the time travelers, a native American named Hunahpu, first makes contact with pre-Columbian societies, playing God with future technology in order to impress the living shit out of the natives.

Ender's Game and Treason are better, and probably worth reading. I would rank this one, along with The Worthing Saga, as decent for a lazy afternoon trashy sci-fi read, but not worth going out of your way.


Any suggestions on what to read next?



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[info]pmb
2004-08-01 01:58 pm UTC (link)
Treason???!??!??!?! No. Treason.

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[info]175560
2004-08-01 02:28 pm UTC (link)
I, too, cower in a brown paper box. I had no idea so many politically charged crackpots showed up on that particular Amazon search...

*hides in shame*

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[info]ukelele
2004-08-01 02:57 pm UTC (link)
Of course, my journal is full of stuff to read :). Anything in particular you had a hankering for?

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[info]175560
2004-08-01 07:09 pm UTC (link)
My first choice is good science books. I absolutely loved Matt Ridley's Genome, and Rare Earth was pretty good, too. I also wouldn't mind another Lord of the Rings epic... or another Neuromancer. :)

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[info]robbbbbb
2004-08-01 04:12 pm UTC (link)
I've been reveiewing stuff from time to time on my journal, as well. I haven't hit on any really good SF recently, and you're probably reading The Baroque Cycle already. I have read some good non-fiction recently that I'd be happy to recommend. Flags of Our Fathers, or Heart of a Soldier, both of which are excellent.

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[info]175560
2004-08-01 07:09 pm UTC (link)
The Baroque Cycle is on my list of things to acquire and read. Are the other books you mentioned strictly war stories?

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[info]robbbbbb
2004-08-02 07:33 am UTC (link)
Flags of Our Fathers is the story of the guys who raised the flag in that famous shot on Iwo Jima, written by the son of one of the flagraisers. Heart of a Soldier is about a guy who died at the World Trade Center on 9/11/01, and how he got to that point. Both are very good.

If you want some good high-concept SF, I'd highly recommend A Fire in the Deep by Vernor Vinge. Very good stuff. The author slowly lets you in to his universe, and has a great deal of respect for intelligent readers.

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Book to read ...
[info]frogpyjamas
2004-08-01 06:19 pm UTC (link)
I really really liked "The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle" by Haruki Murakami which I read recently. It's not SF or Fantasy, but it was thought provoking and had some mixed up space-time elements. Another good book along that line is Don DeLillo's "Mao II."

-Julie (met at ABL party playing Barbu)

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Re: Book to read ...
[info]175560
2004-08-01 07:11 pm UTC (link)
Hmm... I like mixed up space-time, that could work. The more thought provoking, the better...

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Book to read
(Anonymous)
2004-08-02 03:07 pm UTC (link)
Fraud of the Century. No, it's not Sci-Fi at all. About the Tilden-Hayes election of 1876, which makes the shenanigans 4 years ago (or this year) seem like kiddy playtime.

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Books
[info]patrissimo
2004-08-02 06:03 pm UTC (link)
Fiction -

* Everything by Bujold
* The Baroque Cycle is great if you like science and econ (and you do) - its full of them.
* John Brunner - _Shockwave Rider_ (proto-cyberpunk)
* Elizabeth Moon - _Remnant Population_

Non-Fiction

I just finished your 5 ages of the universe book, so you can have it back next time I see you :). Here are some good Bio books:

* Richard Dawkins, _The Selfish Gene_, _The Blind Watchmaker_, _The Extended Phenotype_
* Robert Wright - _The Moral Animal_ (Evolutionary Biology)
* Robert Wright - _Non-Zero_ (About the idea that the main trend in human history is towards more positive-sum interactions. He takes the idea a bit too far, I think, but its still quite interesting).
* Matt Ridley _The Origins of Virtue_ (about how morals evolved as a strategy to aid in positive sum cooperation).

And a nepotistic vote - if you haven't read my dad's _Machinery of Freedom_ or _Law's Order_, they are both paridigm-shiftingly good.

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Pastwatch
(Anonymous)
2004-08-03 10:48 am UTC (link)
I want to say a word on Pastwatch, but since it has turned out to be a rather long word, I'll comment on other books first. :) One sci-fi series that I've read recently is "The Book of the New Sun" by Gene Wolfe; the first book is The Shadow of the Torturer, though I've most often seen it published in the omnibus edition Shadow & Claw. I won't say it's my favorite series ever, but I certainly found it thought provoking; it might follow fairly naturally after Pastwatch in some ways. (One minor annoyance that I can't help mentioning: the main character occasionally seems obsessed with breasts. That may be understandable for him inside the story, but I don't think the author has the same excuses.)

As for Pastwatch, I actually enjoyed the book quite a bit, though that may be because it came close to questions that I've pondered surprisingly often myself. (Namely, what could I as an educated person from a technological society contribute if I were thrust into a primitive culture? What should I contribute? And from another direction, what could we as a society do to safeguard our knowledge against potential societal collapse? How could we, Seldon-esque, preserve it until a future society arose that could make sense of it?)

But back to the book itself. First, I think it's significant to point out that it's not just guilt that motivates the future society to change the past, but also fear of a looming dark age from which humanity might never recover. I agree that the characters aren't tremendously well drawn and that the plot is rarely either gripping or complex, but I actually don't see the serious failure of believability that you do.

Much as in his "Alvin Maker" books, Card has envisioned a history that is very stable under small perturbations. (In "Alvin Maker", the broad outline of American history is essentially the same despite the near universality of "magic" and many minor differences from real history. In Pastwatch, the future researchers accidentally change the past early on, and quickly realize that the change has not appreciably changed their present. No serious butterfly effect here!) But a large enough change at the right time could push history into a very different "locally stable" pattern (I'm imagining basins of stability from chaos theory here, if you hadn't guessed). The book picks out Columbus as a particularly strong and persistant person who lived at "the right time" to make one of those large changes.

To be honest, I don't see that as being such an unreasonable view of history; at the very least, I think a concept of time along those lines is necessary for any time travel story that's not "A Sound of Thunder". I also don't recall a single case in the novel where the characters came remotely close to thinking that their "what if" theories were "entirely accurate". They pieced together an explanation for their observations that was quite radical, I agree, but the specific details weren't important. And their own plans for changing history were almost defined by the need for redundancy and fine-tuned control.

So, yeah. I'll agree that it's not a top rate novel, but I at least thought it explored some fascinating territory reasonably well. Personally, I could do without most of the segments from Columbus's perspective (particularly when Card tries to smooth over the parts of the true story that make him look bad), but I still enjoy the book. On the other hand, I can very much understand that someone without my perhaps morbid fascination with the collapse of civilization might not enjoy it nearly as much. :)

Steuard

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